freedom, the highest award in this country. where does that rank among vindication, validation for all your work in the last 50 years. >> it was 100% clear it was an award for a movement. and i accept it in that spirit. it was clear that the meaning came from the person who gave it, which was president obama. actually, it has been given to terrible people in the past by other president, so the medal of freedom. >> so it didn't rank that high for you? >> no, it did, because it came from president obama. >> the award it is. >> no, i mean it was given to henry hyde, whose restriction of federal funds for abortion killed more women than legislation, and he got the award too. >> isn't that ironic.